Formal 04/25/17 Session – Norfolk City Council


OF THE REAL ESTATE TAX PUBLIC
HEARING. YES, SIR, PLEASE COME FORWARD.>>MY NAME IS BRIAN CHAPMAN, I
LIVE AT 1004 ROANOKE AVENUE IN NORFOLK, VIRGINIA. I’D LIKE NO NEW TAXES ON REAL
ESTATE, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU.>>THANK YOU FOR COMING. ALL RIGHT. THE REAL ESTATE TAX PUBLIC
HEARING IS CLOSED. THE NORFOLK CITY COUNCIL IS NOW
IN SESSION. PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE
PRAYER GIVEN BY REVEREND DEREK KOOLMAN, CHRIST UNITED METHODIST
CHURCH AND PLEASE REMAINING STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF
ALLEGIANCE. WELCOME, SIR.>>THANK YOU. LET US PRAY. ETERNAL GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR
THE LIFE YOU HAVE GIVEN US ALL. WE THANK YOU FOR GIVING US
ANOTHER DAY TO SHARE WITH YOU IN YOUR CREATION. WE ASK THAT YOUR SPIRIT WILL BE
PRESENT WITH US, TO GIVE WISDOM AND COURAGE TO OUR ELECTED
LEADERS AND TO THOSE OF US HERE GATHERED, THAT THROUGH THE
WISDOM AND COURAGE YOU PROVIDE, WE WILL BE ABLE TO DISCUSS AND
DISCERN THE RIGHT ACTIONS TO TAKE FOR THE HEALTH AND WELFARE
FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF NORFOLK. ENABLE US, GRACIOUS GOD, THE
CITIZENS OF NORFOLK, TO LIVE RESPONSIBLY IN YOUR EYES AND
PEACEABLY WITH ONE ANOTHER, SO THAT WHEN THIS BODY MEETS AGAIN,
WE CAN ALL GIVE THANKS TO YOU FOR LIFE AGAIN. AMEN.>>All: AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG
OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR
WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH
LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.>>CLERK WILL PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL.>>MS. GRAVES.>>HERE.>>MS. JOHNSON.>>HERE.>>MS. McCLELLAN.>>HERE.>>MR. RIDDICK.>>MR. SMIGIEL.>>HERE.>>MR. THOMAS.>>HERE.>>DR. WHIBLEY.>>HERE.>>MR. ALEXANDER.>>HERE. MOTION IS TO DISPENSE WITH
THE READING OF THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING.>>MS. GRAVES.>>AYE.>>MS. JOHNSON.>>AYE.>>MS. McCLELLAN.>>AYE.>>MR. SMIGIEL.>>AYE.>>MR. THOMAS.>>AYE.>>DR. WHIBLEY.>>AYE.>>MR. ALEXANDER.>>AYE. THE CLERK WILL PLEASE READ THE
RESOLUTION CERTIFYING CLOSED MEETING.>>RESOLUTION CERTIFYING A
CLOSED MEETING OF THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF NORFOLK HELD IN
ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF
INFORMATION ACT. ADOPT THE RESOLUTION. MS. GRAVES.>>AYE.>>MS. JOHNSON.>>AYE.>>MS. McCLELLAN.>>AYE.>>MR. SMIGIEL.>>AYE.>>MR. THOMAS.>>AYE.>>DR. WHIBLEY.>>AYE.>>MR. ALEXANDER.>>AYE. GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND
GENTLEMEN. FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE WHO DO
NOT REGULARLY ATTEND THE CITY COUNCIL, THE PROCEDURE THAT
WE’LL FOLLOW TONIGHT IS AS FOLLOWS. WE FIRST TAKE UP CEREMONIAL
ITEMS. NEXT WE’LL TAKE UP PUBLIC
HEARINGS AND THEN THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH WILL BE VOTED ON
IN A BLOCK. ANY MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL OR THE
PUBLIC WISHES TO DISCUSS AN ITEM, THAT ITEM WILL BE REMOVED
FROM THE BLOCK AND CONSIDERED SEPARATELY. FOLLOWING THE CONSENT AGENDA,
WE’LL TAKE UP REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS IN THE ORDER AS THEY
APPEAR ON YOUR DOCKET. UPON THE COMPLETION OF THE
AGENDA, WE’LL TAKE UP ANY NEW BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE
COUNCIL. TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL, YOU
SHOULD HAVE REGISTERED TO SPEAK IN THE LOBBY OUTSIDE THE COUNCIL
CHAMBER BEFORE 7:00 P.M. WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED, PLEASE
COME TO THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND PLEASE
LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES. MR. CLERK, RECORD WILL NOTE THAT
MR. RIDDICK IS HERE.>>HERE.>>MR. CLERK, THERE ARE NO NONEL
ITEMS, SO WE’LL MOVE — NO CEREMONIAL ITEMS, SO WE’LL MOVE
RIGHT INTO PH-1.>>PUBLIC HEARING ONE SCHEDULED
THIS DAY ON THE APPLICATION OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION TO
AMEND SECTION 11-3, FLOODPLAIN/ COASTAL HAZARD OVERLAY
DISTRICTS, FPCHO, OF THE CITY’S ZONING ORDINANCE IN ORDER TO
CLARIFY REQUIREMENTS FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES AND TO
CLARIFY TERMS. BY A 7-0 VOTE, PLANNING
COMMISSION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.>>MR. CLERK, CALL THE ROLL.>>I HAVE AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND
AND REORDAIN SECTIONS 11-3.7 AND 11-3.12 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE
SO AS TO UPDATE CERTAIN PROVISIONS OF THE
FLOODPLAIN/COASTAL HAZARD OVERLAY DISTRICTS, FPCHO,
RELATING TO ACCESSORY STRUCTURES. DISPENSE WITH THE CHARTER
REQUIREMENT FOR READING THE ORDINANCE AND ADOPT. MS. GRAVES.>>AYE.>>MS. JOHNSON.>>AYE.>>MS. McCLELLAN.>>AYE.>>MR. RIDDICK.>>AYE.>>MR. SMIGIEL.>>AYE.>>MR. THOMAS.>>AYE.>>DR. WHIBLEY.>>AYE.>>MR. ALEXANDER.>>AYE. PH-2.>>PUBLIC HEARING TWO SCHEDULED
THIS DAY ON THE APPLICATION OF MONUMENT DEVELOPMENT SEVEN, LLC,
TO DESIGNATE THE EXISTING STRUCTURE AS A NORFOLK HISTORIC
LANDMARK ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 529 WEST 24th STREET. BY A 7-0 VOTE, PLANNING
COMMISSION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.>>TO ANSWER NECESSITY
QUESTIONS, WE HAVE TOM DICKEY AND CHRIS JOHNSON AND WE HAVE
ALLAN SULLIVAN. NO QUESTIONS FOR THE COUNCIL? MR. CLERK, CALLING THE ROLL.>>THERE ARE TWO ORDINANCES. FIRST IS AN ORDINANCE TO
DESIGNATE THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 529 WEST 24th STREET AS A
NORFOLK HISTORIC LANDMARK AND TO AMEND THE ZONING MAP TO SHOW THE
DESIGNATION. DISPENSE WITH THE CHARTER
REQUIREMENT FOR READING THE ORDINANCE AND ADOPT. MS. GRAVES.>>AYE.>>MS. JOHNSON.>>AYE.>>MS. McCLELLAN.>>AYE.>>MR. RIDDICK.>>AYE.>>MR. SMIGIEL.>>AYE.>>MR. THOMAS.>>AYE.>>DR. WHIBLEY.>>AYE.>>MR. ALEXANDER.>>AYE.>>SECOND IS AN ORDINANCE
GRANTING A SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO PERMIT SEVEN OR MORE MULTIFAMILY
DWELLING UNITS ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 529 WEST 24th STREET. DISPENSE WITH THE CHARTER
REQUIREMENT FOR READING THE ORDINANCE AND ADOPT. MS. GRAVES.>>AYE.>>MS. JOHNSON.>>AYE.>>MS. McCLELLAN.>>AYE.>>MR. RIDDICK.>>AYE.>>MR. SMIGIEL.>>AYE.>>MR. THOMAS.>>AYE.>>DR. WHIBLEY.>>AYE.>>MR. ALEXANDER.>>AYE. PH-3.>>PUBLIC HEARING THREE
SCHEDULED THIS DAY ON THE APPLICATION OF HANK’S FILLING
STATION FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM R-8 SINGLE-FAMILY TO C-2
CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 810 43rd STREET. BY A 7-0 VOTE, PLANNING
COMMISSION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.>>RICK HENN IS HEAR TO ANSWER
QUESTIONS. DO WAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MR. CLERK, CALL THE ROLL.>>THERE ARE THREE ORDINANCES. FIRST IS AN ORDINANCE TO REZONE
PROPERTY LOCATED AT 810 43rd STREET FROM R-8 SINGLE-FAMILY
RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO C-2 CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. DISPENSE WITH THE CHARTER
REQUIREMENT FOR READING THE ORDINANCE AND ADOPT. MS. GRAVES.>>AYE.>>MS. JOHNSON.>>AYE.>>MS. McCLELLAN.>>AYE.>>MR. RIDDICK.>>AYE.>>MR. SMIGIEL.>>AYE.>>MR. THOMAS.>>AYE.>>DR. WHIBLEY.>>AYE.>>MR. ALEXANDER.>>AYE.>>NEXT IS AN ORDINANCE GRANTED
A SPECIAL EXCEPTION AUTHORIZING THE OPERATION OF AN
ENTERTAINMENT ESTABLISHMENT WITH ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES KNOWN AS
HANK’S FILLING STATION ON PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 4301
COLLEY AVENUE AND 810 43rd STREET. DISPENSE WITH THE CHARTER
REQUIREMENT FOR READING THE ORDINANCE AND ADOPT. MS. GRAVES.>>AYE.>>MS. JOHNSON.>>AYE.>>MS. McCLELLAN.>>AYE.>>MR. RIDDICK.>>AYE.>>MR. SMIGIEL.>>AYE.>>MR. THOMAS.>>AYE.>>DR. WHIBLEY.>>AYE.>>MR. ALEXANDER.>>AYE.>>THIRD IS AN ORDINANCE
GRANTING A SPECIAL EXCEPTION AUTHORIZING OFF-PREMISES ALCOHOL
SALES AT AN ESTABLISHMENT KNOWN AS HANK’S FILLING STATION ON
PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 4301 COLLEY AVENUE AND 810 43rd
STREET. DISPENSE WITH THE CHARTER
REQUIREMENT FOR READING THE ORDINANCE AND ADOPT. MS. GRAVES.>>AYE.>>MS. JOHNSON.>>AYE.>>MS. McCLELLAN.>>AYE.>>MR. RIDDICK.>>AYE.
IS IT A RESTAURANT OR FAST FOOD PLACE? LENNY? I MEAN GEORGE.>>MR. HOMEWOOD.>>IT’S A RESTAURANT.>>OFFPREMISES, WHAT ARE THEY
GOING TO BE TAKING OFF PREMISES?>>I BELIEVE IT’S GROWLER FILLS.>>IT’S WHAT?>>GROWLER FILLS.>>MEANING WHAT?>>A GROWLER IS EITHER A 32 OR
64-OUNCE CONTAINER THAT IS FILLED AT THE TAP WITH BEER.>>SO 32 OUNCES TO SOME PEOPLE
COULD BE A SINGLE SALE, YOU KNOW. I DON’T, I DON’T THING THAT WE
SHOULD AWE HOW THEM TO SELL OFF PREMISES. IF THEY’RE GOING TO MAKE MONEY,
LET THEM MAKE IT INSIDE THE HOUSE. THAT’S JUST ME. I WISH WE HAD SEEN IT. I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES WHEN A
PATRON IS AT A RESTAURANT AND THEY HAVE NOT FINISHED MAYBE A
BOTTLE OF WINE, YOU’RE ABLE TO CORK IT AND TAKE IT OUT, BUT
THIS IS TO JUST — FOR THIS SYSTEM, SOMEBODY ASK COME IN
WITH A CONTAINER AND BUY BEER OR WHAT?>>YES, SIR.>>HAVE WE ALREADY VOTED?>>YOU VOTED YES, BUT YOU CAN —
YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR VOTE.>>MY VOTE IS GOING TO BE NO AND
I REALLY WISH, YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAD HAD A HEADS-UP. THE NEXT TIME SOMETHING LIKE
THAT COMES ALONG, YOU KNOW, I KNOW A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS HAVE
CHANGED AS FAR AS RESTAURANTS ARE CONCERNED, BUT THAT’S JUST
LIKE WE OPEN THIS UP IN HUNTERSVILLE AND ALLOWING
SOMEBODY TO BUY A QUART OF BEER, YOU KNOW. THAT’S NOT RIGHT. I VOTE NO.>>MR. SMIGIEL.>>AYE.>>MR. THOMAS.>>YES.>>DR. WHIBLEY.>>AYE.>>MR. ALEXANDER.>>AYE. PH-4.>>PUBLIC HEARING FOUR SCHEDULED
THIS DAY ON THE APPLICATION OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION TO
AMEND CHAPTER 4, RESIDENCE DISTRICTS, OF THE ZONING
ORDINANCE TO INCLUDE SINGLE FAMILY-TRADITIONAL, SF-T,
DISTRICT AND FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM R-8 SINGLE-FAMILY
DISTRICT AND RESIDENTIAL COMPATIBILITY OVERLAY DISTRICT
TO SINGLE FAMILY-TRADITIONAL, DISTRICT. AND PLANNING COMMISSION
RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.>>B. GARVIN THOMPSON.>>GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE
MAYOR, COUNCIL PERSONS AND CITY ADMINISTRATORS. MY NAME IS BEATRICE GARVIN
THOMPSON, RESIDENT OF OLDE HUNTERSVILLE AND PRESIDENT OF
THE OLDE HUNTERSVILLE CIVIC LEAGUE. I’M HERE TO VOICE ON BEHALF OF
THE OLDE HUNTERSVILLE CIVIC LEAGUE OUR SUPPORT FOR THE
PROPOSAL THAT IS NOW BEFORE YOU. IT IS OUR CONSENSUS THAT THE
PROPOSED SINGLE-FAMILY TRADITIONAL DISTRICT AND THE
OLDE HUNTERSVILLE NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING PLAN BOOK IS IN
ALIGNMENT WITH THE VISION AND GOALS THAT WE HAVE SET FORTH IN
OUR GRASS ROOT AND STRATEGIC PLAN. WE APPRECIATE THE MANY HOURS OF
CONSULTATION WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL GROUP AND THE
PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND WE COMMEND THEM FOR CAPTURING OUR
VISION AND THE HISTORIC FLAVOR OF OUR — OF THE CHARACTER OF
OUR COMMUNITY. WE BELIEVE OPTIMISTICALLY THAT
BY YOUR VOTE TONIGHT, THAT YOU ARE IN FACT VALIDATING OUR
EFFORTS AND OUR VISION TO CONTINUE WORKING COLLABORATIVELY
TO MOVE OUR COMMUNITY TOWARDS ONE OF CHOICE. WE FURTHER BELIEVE — THAT IS SO
IMPORTANT — THAT WE ENVISION OUR PRIME REAL ESTATE IN OUR
COMMUNITY. WE CAN SEE IT BEING TURNED INTO
TAX REVENUE GENERATING PROPERTIES. WE ENVISION URBANITES WHO DESIRE
TO LIVE AND WORK THIS CLOSE PROXIMITY TO DOWNTOWN’S NORFOLK
ENTERTAINMENT AND CULTURAL DISTRICT TO MIGRATE TO OLDE
HUNTERSVILLE. WE SEE ORNATE TWO-STORY FAMILY
DWELLINGS ATTRACTING BOTH ECONOMIC AND ETHNIC DIVERSITY. HOME OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES WE
SEE BEING CREATED AND BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF BY OUR
EXISTING RESIDENTS. AND ALSO, ATTRACTING VISIONARY
INDIVIDUALS, SEEKING TO RELOCATE TO A QUAINT, INNER CITY
COMMUNITY THAT IS RICH IN TRADITION AND CHARACTER, THAT
WILL FIND THEIR HOME IN OLDE HUNTERSVILLE WHERE HISTORY IS
STILL BEING WRITTEN. WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR
ATTENTION AND FOR YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU.>>CAROLYN JOHNSON — I’M SORRY,
CAROLYN LATHAM.>>GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND
COUNCIL. FIRST OF ALL, MY NAME IS CAROLYN
LATHAM. I LIVE AT 1819 BRACEY STREET. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. I’M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE
RESIDENTS OF OLDE HUNTERSVILLE AND WE’RE ASKING YOU TO SAY YES
TO OUR PLAN. WE WORKED VERY HARD IN OLDE
HUNTERSVILLE AND I THINK THE PLAN IS AWESOME. I KNOW IT WILL HELP OUR
COMMUNITY, IT WILL BUILD OUR PRESTIGE. OUR RESIDENTS WILL GROW, OUR
COMMUNITY WILL GROW, IT WILL MAKE IT HEALTHY AND I KNOW THAT
SOME PEOPLE MIGHT THINK IT’S NOT A GOOD PLAN, BUT I THINK IT IS. BEING A RESIDENT OF PUBLIC
HOUSING, I CAME FROM PUBLIC HOUSING AND ME AND MY HUSBAND
CHOSE OLDE HUNTERSVILLE BECAUSE IT REMINDED US OF THE OLD
COMMUNITY THAT WE CAME FROM. I CAME FROM EAST GHENT. MY HUSBAND CAME FROM BALTIMORE
STREET ON THE OTHER SIDE OF HUNTERSVILLE, SO WE CHOSE
HUNTERSVILLE TO GROW OUR FAMILY. OUR CHILDREN DID NOT GROW THERE,
BUT OUR GRANDKIDS COME TO VISIT US, SO WE ASK YOU FOR A YES VOTE
FROM THE COUNCIL. THANK YOU.>>THANK YOU. MR. CLERK, CALLING THE ROLL.>>THERE ARE THREE ORDINANCES. FIRST IS AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND
THE CITY’S GENERAL PLAN SO AS TO ADOPT AND INCORPORATE THE
NORFOLK TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN BOOK AND TO ADD NEW ACTION
ITEMS TO SUPPORT AND INCORPORATE THE PLAN IN THE HUNTERSVILLE
NEIGHBORHOOD. DISPENSE WITH THE CHARTER
REQUIREMENT FOR READING THE ORDINANCE AND ADOPT. MS. GRAVES.>>I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU
TO THE ADMINISTRATION AS WELL AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND
THOSE IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT FOR ALL OF THEIR WORK. AND ALSO TO THE COMMUNITY OF
HUNTERSVILLE. YOU GUYS HAVE WORKED VERY, VERY
HARD AND I KNOW THEY’RE HERE, SO I’D LIKE TO ASK THEM IF THEY
WOULD STAND SO THAT WE COULD RECOGNIZE OUR OLDE HUNTERSVILLE
COMMUNITY. [ APPLAUSE ]
THIS IS A SMALL REPRESENTATION OF THE OLDE HUNTERSVILLE
COMMUNITY, BUT IT’S A VERY FAITHFUL REPRESENTATION FOR ALL
THE CIVIC LEAGUE MEETINGS AND CHARRETTES AND TASK FORCE
MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE, AND WE ASK THEM TO COME OUT SEVERAL
NIGHTS DURING THE NO TO PARTICIPATE — DURING THE MONTH
TO PARTICIPATE AND HAVE A SAY IN WHAT GOES ON IN THE COMMUNITY,
AND SO THIS PLAN IS MORE THAN HOUSES. IT’S MORE THAN TAX REVENUE. IT’S ABOUT PEOPLE. IT’S ABOUT THE COMMUNITY, AND
IT’S ABOUT BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER AND BRINGING PEOPLE
BACK TO A PART OF TOWN THAT IS RICH IN HISTORY AND THAT IS
STILL SIGNIFICANT AND RELEVANT TO THE VIBRANCY OF THE CITY OF
NORFOLK. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIRELESS
AND OFTENTIMES UNTHANKFUL — OR THANKLESS HARD WORK. WE REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR
INPUT AND YOU ALL SPOKE IN OUR PLANNING COMMISSION, OUR
PLANNING DIRECTORS, RATHER, DID THEIR JOBS AND SO THANK YOU TO
EVERYONE THAT WAS INVOLVED IN MAKING THIS HAPPEN. IT WAS TRULY A COLLABORATIVE
EFFORT AND IT’S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD NOT HAVE DONE ON OUR
OWN. WE HOPE THAT MOVING FORWARD,
WE’LL SHARE THAT SAME COLLABORATION IN OTHER AREAS TO
MAKE OLDE HUNTERSVILLE THE SHINING STAR THAT WE KNOW THAT
IT CAN BE. I VOTE YES.>>MS. JOHNSON.>>I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU
TEAM NORFOLK, TO THE COMMUNITY OF HUNTERSVILLE. I GREW UP IN HUNTERSVILLE ON
DUNGEE STREET, SO I SEE YOU AS MY FAMILY AND I KNOW THE HARD
WORK THAT YOU’VE DONE IN THE COMMUNITY OF HUNTERSVILLE. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK
YOU SO VERY MUCH. I VOTE AYE.>>MS. McCLELLAN.>>I WAS RIDING UP IN THE
ELEVATOR THE DAY THE HUNTERSVILLE STORY CAME IN THE
NEWSPAPER AND I INTRODUCED MYSELF TO SOMEBODY AS A CITY
EMPLOYEE, AND I ASKED HIM WHAT HE DID AND WHERE HE LIVED, AND
HE EXCITED SAID, I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN HUNTERSVILLE. I LIVE IN NORVIEW NOW, BUT I
WANT TO BUY A LOT AND BUILD ONE OF THOSE HOUSES. I’M COMING BACK. SO WAFR YOU’RE DOING IS GREAT
AND I VOTE YES.>>MR. RIDDICK.>>AYE.>>MR. SMIGIEL.>>IT WOULD BE GREAT DOWN THE
ROAD TO LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES MAYBE FOR CITY EMPLOYEES SO GET
LOTS IN THAT SECTION AT A CHEAPER RATE OR SOME KIND OF
INCENTIVE TO LIVE IN THE CITY OF NORFOLK. THAT WOULD BE A GREAT MODEL,
PARTICULARLY BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY TO DOWNTOWN, BUT MAYBE
BRING FOLKS IN THAT WAY IF YOU WANT TO LIST 100 LOTS. AYE.>>MR. THOMAS.>>AYE.>>DR. WHIBLEY.>>GREAT WORK. REALLY EXCITING TO SEE A
COMMUNITY COME TOGETHER LIKE THIS AND REALLY BELIEVE IN THEIR
NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE’D LIKE
TO HAVE ALL OVER THE CITY. I APPLAUD YOU ALL. AYE.>>IN ALEXANDER.>>I JOIN THE COUNCIL IN
THANKING JAMES ROGERS AND STAFF AND ESPECIALLY TEAM NORFOLK AND
B. GARVIN THOMPSON AND ALL THE RESIDENTS OF OLDE HUNTERSVILLE. ONE OF MY FIRST MEETINGS AFTER
GETTING ELECTED WAS BEING SUMMONED BY BEA TO COME TO OLDE
HUNTERSVILLE TO SHOW OFF WHAT SHE WAS PROPOSING AND EVERY
NIGHT THAT MR. ROGERS AND WRITE
OUT AT A CIVIC LEAGUE — AND I WERE OUT AT A CIVIC LEAGUE, WE
BRAG TO THE OTHER 119 CIVIC LEAGUES ABOUT THE GREAT WORK
THAT’S GOING ON IN OLDE HUNTERSVILLE. I VOTE AYE.>>NEXT IS AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND
CHAPTER 4 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF
NORFOLK, 1992, SO AS TO CREATE THE SINGLE-FAMILY TRADITIONAL,
SF-T, RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT. DISPENSE WITH THE CHARTER
REQUIREMENT FOR READING THE ORDINANCE AND ADOPT. MS. GRAVES.>>AYE.>>MS. JOHNSON.>>AYE.>>MS. McCLELLAN.>>AYE.>>MR. RIDDICK.>>AYE.>>MR. SMIGIEL.>>AYE.>>MR. THOMAS.>>AYE.>>DR. WHIBLEY.>>AYE.>>MR. ALEXANDER.>>AYE.
>>AND AN ORDINANCE TO REZONE PROPERTIES IN THE HUNTERSVILLE
NEIGHBORHOOD TO SINGLE-FAMILY TRADITIONAL DISTRICT. DISPENSE WITH THE CHARTER
REQUIREMENT FOR READING THE ORDINANCE AND ADOPT. MS. GRAVES.>>I LOOK FORWARD TO SELLING
HOMES IN HUNTERSVILLE. I VOTE AYE.>>MS. JOHNSON.>>AYE.>>MS. McCLELLAN.>>AYE.>>MR. RIDDICK.>>AYE.>>MR. SMIGIEL.>>AYE.>>MR. THOMAS.>>AYE.>>DR. WHIBLEY.>>AYE.>>MR. ALEXANDER.>>AYE. PH-5.>>MR. MAYOR, THERE’S BEEN A
REQUEST TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO THE MAY 9 MEETING.>>MOTION IS TO CONTINUE TO
MAY 9.>>MS. GRAVES.>>PH-5? OH, OKAY, YES, AYE.>>MS. JOHNSON.>>AYE.>>MS. McCLELLAN.>>AYE.>>MR. RIDDICK.>>AYE.>>MR. SMIGIEL.>>AYE.>>MR. THOMAS.>>AYE.>>DR. WHIBLEY.>>AYE.>>MR. ALEXANDER.>>AYE. PH-6.>>LIKEWISE THERE’S A REQUEST
FROM THE ADMINISTRATION TO CONTINUE THIS MATTER UNTIL MAY
9.>>MOTION IS TO CONTINUE TO
MAY 9.>>MS. GRAVES.>>AYE.>>MS. JOHNSON.>>AYE.>>MS. McCLELLAN.>>AYE.>>MR. RIDDICK.>>AYE.>>MR. SMIGIEL.>>AYE.>>MR. THOMAS.>>AYE.>>DR. WHIBLEY.>>AYE.>>MR. ALEXANDER.>>AYE. C-1.>>C-1 IS AN ORDINANCE GRANTING
A SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO PERMIT SEVEN OR MORE MULTIFAMILY
DWELLING UNIT ONPROPERTIES LOCATED AT 4334 TO 4350 EAST
LITTLE CREEK ROAD AND 7905 TO –>>MR. SMIGIEL HAS A QUESTION.>>IS ANYBODY HERE FROM EAST
LITTLE CREEK CIVIC LEAGUE?>>YES, THERE’S A MEMBER HERE.>>GREAT. THIS IS SOMETHING I DIDN’T HAVE
TO GET INVOLVED IN, BUT I KNOW WHEN IT CAME BEFORE PLANNING,
THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE NOT GOING ON THE
OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD, THAT IT WAS ONLY GOING TO TAKE CARE OF
ONE SIDE AND THE MILITARY HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE FLOODING
THAT MAY HAPPEN ON THE OTHER SIDE. HAS ALL OF THAT BEEN ADDRESSED
IN THAT — I SPOKE WITH MR. HALES. HE SAID THAT THERE — MAYBE
THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE OTHER SIDE
OF THE ROAD AS WELL, SO THEY’RE ONLY PUTTING CURBS ON THE ONE
SIDE WHERE THE PROJECT IS, BUT NOT ON THE OTHER SIDE, WHICH IS
A LOT WITH SOME HOUSES ON IT AND CLOSE TO THE MILITARY BASE.>>SO THERE ARE A LOT OF
QUESTIONS THERE, SO LET ME TRY TO PARSE IT AND ANSWER THEM ONE
AT A TIME.>>OKAY.>>HAVE THE ISSUES THAT WERE
RAISED BY THE NAVY FROM LITTLE CREEK BEEN ANSWERED? THE ANSWER TO THAT IS QUESTION. — IS YES. THEIR CONCERN WAS TO ENSURE THAT
THAT PORTION OF EAST LITTLE CREEK NOT BE TURNED INTO A MORE
SUBSTANTIAL ROADWAY AND TO TAKE CARE OF THE ISSUES OF DRAINAGE
THAT ARE IN THE AREA. WITH RESPECT TO WHERE
INFRASTRUCTURE GOES, TYPICALLY WE DO NOT ASK A DEVELOPER TO
CONTRIBUTE TO THE COST OR INSTALL INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE
OPPOSITE SIDE OF A PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY FROM THE PROPERTY
THAT THEY OWN AND THAT WOULD BE — THAT’S THE CASE HERE. SO THEY ARE HANDLING THE SIDE
THAT IS — THAT THEY OWN AND ARE INSTALLING THE CURB AND THE
GUTTER AND THE SIDEWALK, BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE, WE TYPICALLY
DON’T ASK THEM TO DO THAT AND IN THIS CASE, WE NEVER EVER MADE
THAT REQUEST OF THEM.>>RIGHT. THE ONLY REASON I’M ASKING,
THERE IS NO INFRASTRUCTURE OVER THERE AT ALL. I MEAN, IT’S —
>>RIGHT, THERE’S NOTHING AT ALL.>>WHAT MY — I GUESS THE
CONCERN THAT MR. HALES AND I
DISCUSSED WAS THAT IF YOU’RE PUTTING THAT INFRASTRUCTURE ON
THE OTHER SIDE, WHAT IS THE CAUSE — WHAT COULD HAPPEN TO
THE OTHER SIDE IF YOU’RE ONLY PUTTING INFRASTRUCTURE THERE,
COULD IT CAUSE THE WATER TO IMPACT THE OTHER PROPERTIES
BY –>>OH, OKAY. SO STORMWATER MANAGEMENT
REQUIRES A DEVELOPER TO, IN ESSENCE, NOT INCREASE THE AMOUNT
OF DISCHARGE FROM THEIR SITE POST DEVELOPMENT AS COMPARED TO
PRE-DEVELOPMENT. SO ADDING CURB IS GOING TO NOT
ADD TO THE STORMWATER ISSUES ALONG THAT PORTION OF EAST
LITTLE CREEK. IT’S NOT — THERE’S NOT
UNDERGROUND STORM SEWER BEING ADDED. IT’S JUST SIMPLY A CURB THAT
DEFINES THE EDGE OF THE ROAD. IT’S NOT GOING TO INCREASE THE
AMOUNT OF STORMWATER RUNOFF, SO THEREFORE, IT SHOULD HAVE NO
IMPACT ON THE OTHER SIDE. IN ADDITION, ONE OF THE
REQUIREMENTS IS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO NOT ONLY
MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE STORMWATER, BUT TO GO 10% ABOVE
AND BEYOND, SO IT DEFINITELY SHOULD NOT HAVE A DELETERIOUS
IMPACT ON THE OTHER SIDE BY ADDING CURBING.>>I WAS LOOKING AT DUNNING, NOT
LITTLE CREEK ROAD, THE OTHER SIDE OF DUNNING. SORRY.>>SAME — THE ANSWER IS THE
SAME.>>OKAY. THANKS.>>THAT’S IT. MR. CLERK.>>DISPENSE WITH THE CHARTER
REQUIREMENT FOR READING THE ORDINANCE AND ADOPT. MS. GRAVES.>>YOU GUYS ARE GETTING A GOOD
BUILDER. I KNOW MIKE PERSONALLY, HE’S A
GOOD BUILDER. I VOTE AYE.>>MS. JOHNSON.>>AYE.>>MS. McCLELLAN.>>AYE.>>MR. RIDDICK.>>AYE.>>MR. SMIGIEL.>>AYE.>>MR. THOMAS.>>AYE.>>DR. WHIBLEY.>>AYE.>>MR. ALEXANDER.>>AYE. R-1.>>MR. MAYOR, THE APPLICANT HAS
REQUESTED THIS MATTER TO BE CONTINUED TO MAY 23.>>MOTION IS TO CONTINUE TO
MAY 23rd.>>MS. GRAVES.>>VNTZ WE CONTINUED THIS —
HAVEN’T WE CONTINUED THIS LIKE SEVERAL TIMES IN THE PAST. WHAT IS THEIR REASON TO CONTINUE
IT AGAIN?>>TO GIVE THEM MORE TIME TO
LOBBY COUNCIL MEMBERS.>>THEY CAN LOBBY ALL THEY WANT.>>WE DON’T HAVE TO ACCEPT — WE
DON’T HAVE TO CONTINUE. WE CAN VOTE IF YOU LIKE.>>I DON’T SEE WHAT THE POINT IS
TO KEEP CONTINUING IT.>>OKAY.>>IF I MAY, I’M HERE — I’M
HERE TO REPRESENT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS. WE HAD INITIALLY SCHEDULED
MEETINGS WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS TO MEET WITH THEM PRIOR TO THE
MEETING THIS EVENING. HOWEVER — AND ACTUALLY
ACCORDING TO THAT INITIAL MEETING, WE HAVE SPOKEN TO THE
CITY ATTORNEY. THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID, OKAY, NO
PROBLEM, GO AHEAD AND MEET WITH THEM, WE DON’T NEED TO BE
PRESENT. BUT JUST PRIOR TO THE MEETING,
OUR MEETINGS, THE CITY ATTORNEY CONTACTED US AGAIN AND SAID
ACTUALLY WE THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER IF WE WERE THERE, WHICH
WE WERE HAPPY TO OBLIGE, BUT THAT REQUIRED TO US RESCHEDULE
BECAUSE THE MEETINGS WE HAD INITIALLY SCHEDULED WITH COUNCIL
MEMBERS WERE NOT GOING TO BE CONVENIENT FOR THE CITY
ATTORNEY.>>OKAY.>>CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME?>>YES, MY NAME IS OLIVIA
WIGGINS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER
FOR YOU ALL? OKAY.>>MR. CLERK — MR. RIDDICK.>>YEAH. IF WE DON’T PLAN TO MEET WITH
THEM, THEN, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THAT DO? I DON’T PLAN TO MEET WITH THEM.>>I GUESS WE CAN VOTE ON THE
CONTINUANCE, RIGHT, VOTE IT UP OR DOWN.>>WE CAN VOTE THE CONTINUANCE,
MR. RIDDICK, UNOR DOWN.>>MRS. GRAVES.>>NO.>>MS. JOHNSON.>>NO.>>MS. McCLELLAN.>>NO.>>MR. RIDDICK.>>NO.>>MR. SMIGIEL.>>NO.>>MR. THOMAS.>>YES.>>DR. WHIBLEY.>>YES.>>MR. ALEXANDER.>>YES.>>SO I HAVE THAT AS THE POTION
FAILING.>>MOTION FAILED. THE MOTION IS TO — THIS ITEM IS
BEFORE THE COUNCIL.>>ANYWAY I READ IT INTO THE
RECORD, MR. MAYOR?>>PLEASE.>>AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A
SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO PERMIT THE OPERATION OF AN AUTO TITLE LOAN
ESTABLISHMENT NAMED LOAN MAX ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3607 NORTH
MILITARY HIGHWAY.>>I SUPPOSE I DON’T HAVE ANY
OPTION AS HOWEVER I DON’T HAVE PERMISSION FROM MY CLIENT TO
ARGUE THIS TONIGHT OR FROM OTHER ATTORNEYS IN MY FIRM. SO — BUT IF WE HAVE TO MOVE
FORWARD WITH, THIS THEN I WILL GO AHEAD AND SAY WHAT WE ARE
HOPING TO BE ABLE TO SAY IN OUR MEETINGS, AND THAT IS, WE SAT
DOWN INDIVIDUALLY WITH QUITE A FEW OF THE EMPLOYEES OF LOAN MAX
AND — LET ME BACK UP A LITTLE BIT. AS YOU ALL KNOW, THERE WAS A
FIRE IN FEBRUARY OF 2017, AND AT THAT TIME, THE LOAN MAX BURNED
DOWN. AND ALSO AT THAT TIME, THERE WAS
NO DETERMINATION OF CAUSE FOR THE FIRE. SO WE ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS
NOW OF GETTING A SPECIAL EXCEPTION WHEREAS INITIALLY WE
WERE GRANDFATHERED IN BECAUSE THE BUSINESS HAD BEEN THERE
SINCE 2004. WE ARE NOW AT A POINT WHERE WE
NEED TO GET THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION BECAUSE OF THE CITY
CODE THAT REQUIRES TO US GET A SPECIAL EXCEPTION BECAUSE OF THE
REBUILD. SO IN PREPARATION FOR THIS, WE
MET WITH SEVERAL LOAN MAX ATTORNEYS TO GET — TO HEAR
THEIR OPINIONS AND THEIR THOUGHTS ON WORKING FOR LOAN
MAX. MANY OF THEM HAVE WORKED FOR
LOAN MAX FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. ONE IN PARTICULAR WHO HAS NOW
MOVED UP IN THE RANKS, HE WAS ORIGINALLY STARTED AT THAT
LOCATION IN NORFOLK, HAS BEEN A NORFOLK RESIDENT FOR TWO-PLUS
DECADES, WAS SPEAKING ABOUT HER EXPERIENCE AND HOW MUCH THIS HAS
BEEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR HER CAREER GROWTH AND HOW THERE ARE
PERSONALLY MANY ANECDOTES ABOUT HOW LOAN MAX AS NECESSITY FOR
THE COMMUNITY. AND WHILE THAT MAY NOT INITIALLY
BE THE CASE YOU SEE IT AS, SOME PEOPLE SEE THIS SITUATION AS
TAKING ADVANTAGE OF PEOPLE IN DIFFICULT SITUATIONS. AND WHERE AT FIRST GLANCE THAT
ANYWAY APPEAR TO BE THE CASE — MAY APPEAR TO BE THE CASE N THIS
SITUATION, WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY DESPERATE FOR MONEY,
WHO CANNOT GET IT FROM BANKS, WHO CANNOT GET IT ANY OTHER WAY,
AND THIS IS THEIR ONLY WAY TO PAY BILLS, SO MAKE SURE THAT
THINGS ARE GETTING PAID ON TIME, TO PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE FOR
THEIR CHILDREN AND IF YOU SPEAK TO LOAN MAX EMPLOYEES WHO ARE
HERE IN THE AREA, WHO HAVE LIVED HERE FOR YEARS, THEY WILL TELL
YOU THE COUNTLESS TIMES THAT THIS HAS BEEN THE CASE WITH
CLIENTS THAT THEY’VE HAD FOR YEARS AND YEARS WHO KEEP COMING
BACK, WHO THEY KEEP HELPING, WHO THEY HAVE PERSONALLY DISCHARGED
LOANS FOR IN ORDER TO HELP THEM. AND HOW WELL THEY KNOW THEIR
CLIENTS AND THE RELATIONSHIP THEY HAVE AND HOW THEIR BUSINESS
IS AN ACTUAL ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY AND IN ADDITION, THIS
IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO HAVE JOBS, AN OPPORTUNITY TO
BRING JOBS INTO YOUR COMMUNITY. AND SO WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD
APPROVE THIS. WE’RE NOT ASKING YOU TO APPROVE
A NEW LOCATION OR APPROVE A NEW BUSINESS. WE’RE ASKING YOU TO LET THEM
RESTART THE EXACT SAME BUSINESS THAT THEY’VE BEEN OPERATING FOR
YEARS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE CITY PLANNING
REPORT, THEY’VE HAD ABSOLUTELY NO ISSUES WITH SECURITY, WITH
NEEDING CALLS FOR POLICE OR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OTHER THAN THE
ONE SITUATION. SO WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD VOTE IN
FAVOR OF LOAN MAX AND LETTING THEM RESTART THEIR BUSINESS AS
IS ACCORDING TO LAW.>>COULD YOU TELL ME HOW MANY
LOAN MAX LOCATIONS YOU HAVE IN THE CITY OF NORFOLK?>>THAT SPECIFIC BUSINESS OR
LOAN ESTABLISHMENTS AS A WHOLE?>>BOTH. YOUR —
>>OKAY, SURE. I BELIEVE, IF I’M NOT MISTAKEN,
THAT THERE ARE THREE TOTAL LOAN MAXES, SO OUR BUSINESS WITHIN
THE COMMUNITY. AS FAR AS TOTAL LOAN
ESTABLISHMENTS IN NORFOLK, THERE ARE 18.>>18.>>YES, SIR.>>SO YOU’RE CONCERNED THAT
THESE INDIVIDUALS WOULDN’T HAVE ACCESS.>>RIGHT.>>IS NOT VALID.>>THAT IS CORRECT, WE’VE
ADDRESSED THAT WITH THE EMPLOYEES AND WITH CORPORATE
SPECIFICALLY AND SAID, WELL, HEY, WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? IF THEY HAVE OTHER OPTIONS, WHY
THIS SPECIFIC LOCATION? WELL, SO A LOT OF THE CLIENTS
WHO ARE COMING TO THESE LOCATIONS HAVE DIFFICULTY
TRAVELING, WHETHER BECAUSE THEY’RE SHARING A CAR OR —
>>YES, MA’AM YOU’VE ANSWERED THE QUESTION.>>OKAY, GOOD.>>ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE
COUNCIL?>>MAY I ASK WHAT THEIR INTEREST
RATE IS?>>YES, MRS. JOHNSON.>>THANK YOU. MS. OLIVIA WIGGINS, IS IT?>>YES.>>MS. WIGGINS, WHAT IS YOUR
INTEREST RATE TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE DIFFICULTY GETTING TO
YOUR BUSINESSES AND WHO CONTINUE TO COME BACK TO SEE YOU TIME
AFTER TIME AFTER TIME TO GET LOANS?>>SURE. WELL, THERE IS ACTUALLY,
ACCORDING TO VIRGINIA LAW, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT THAT I BELIEVE
THAT IS VARYING LEVELS DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH THE LOAN IS. I THINK IT’S $700 AND BELOW,
THERE IS ONE RATE AND THEN $700 TO LIKE MAYBE $2500, THERE’S A
LOWER RATE, AND THEN ABOVE THAT IS A LOWER RATE. I DON’T — I CAN’T TELL YOU
RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I’M SORRY. I WAS NOT EXPECTING TO HAVE TO
COME ARGUE THIS TONIGHT AND I APOLOGIZE. I DON’T HAVE THAT NUMBER IN
FRONT OF ME. HOWEVER, I WILL SAY I HAVE
ACTUALLY BEEN RESEARCHING THIS SPECIFIC SITUATION AND IF YOU
COMPARE WHAT BANKS CAN CHARGE TO INDIVIDUALS AND WHAT
SPECIFICALLY STATE BANKS CAN CHARGE TO INDIVIDUALS AND WHAT
LOAN ESTABLISHMENTS CAN CHARGE TO INDIVIDUALS, VIRGINIA LAW
STATES THAT SPECIFICALLY ON STATE BANKS AND THEN ON CERTAIN
LOANS, BANKS HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO CAP ON WHAT THEY CAN CHARGE AND,
AGAIN, THESE ARE INDIVIDUALS WHO, IF THEY GO TO THESE BANKS,
WHO CAN CHARGE ANY INTEREST RATE THAT THEY WANT LEGALLY, THAT
THEY STILL HAVE — THEY CAN’T GET A LOAN FROM THESE BANKS AND
SO THEY’RE GOING TO SPEND A BUNCH OF TIME TRYING TO GET A
LOAN AND BE UNSUCCESSFUL AND BE EXACTLY WHERE THEY WERE WHEN
THEY WALKED THROUGH THE DOOR.>>BUT MY QUESTION WAS, CAN YOU
TELL ME THE RATES?>>AND I — LIKE I SAID, I
APOLOGIZE, I DON’T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHAT THE RATES OF
OTHER THAN IT’S A VARYING RATE DEPENDING ON WHAT THE PRICE
BRACKET IS.>>ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL? MR. CLERK, CALLING THE ROLL.>>DISPENSE WITH THE CHARTER
REQUIREMENT TO READING THE ORDINANCE AND ADOPT.>>MS. GRAVES.>>I DON’T HAVE A QUESTION, BUD
I HAD LIKE TO SAY, BACK IN 2002, I GOT — MY REFRIGERATOR WENT
OUT AND I GOT A POSTCARD THAT SAID FREE LOAN, AND I WAS NAIVE
ENOUGH TO UTILIZE ONE OF THOSE PLACES. AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT IT TOOK
ME THREE YEARS TO GET OUT FROM UNDER — AND I THOUGHT I WAS A
SMART PERSON. IT TOOK ME THREE YEARS TO GET
OUT FROM UNDER ONE OF THOSE $500 PAYDAY-TYPE OF LOANS. AND I SEE IT AS LEGAL LOAN
SHARKING, AND WE HAVE PROGRAMS THAT WE STARTED HERE, BANK ON IN
THE CITY OF NORFOLK WHERE WE ASSIST PEOPLE AT NO CHARGE IN
GETTING THEMSELVES IN FINANCIAL POSITION TO BE ABLE TO BORROW
FROM NORMAL LENDING ESTABLISHMENTS, BEING ABLE TO —
WE WORK WITH BANKS TO BE ABLE TO GET FOLKS MICRO LOANS SO THEY
DON’T HAVE TO UTILIZE THOSE TYPES OF ESTABLISHMENT, AND I
PERSONALLY JUST DON’T LIKE THEM. AND I — IF WE HAVE 18 AND
THAT’S 18 TOO MANY IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, SO BASED ON MY
OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH THE HIGH RATES THAT YOU GUYS CHARGE,
BECAUSE IT COST ME LIKE $75 FOR EVERY $500 THAT I BORROWED, SO
WHEN I BORROWED TWICE A MONTH, I CREATED $150 BILL EVERY TIME I
HAD TO PAY IT BACK, AND THEN I HAD TO REBORROW IT BECAUSE I
COULDN’T AFFORD TO GIVE UP $500 OUT OF MY PAYCHECK WHEN I
BORROWED THE FIRST $500. I’M NOT A FAN AND I VOTE NO.>>MS. JOHNSON.>>NO.>>MS. McCLELLAN.>>NO.>>MR. RIDDICK.>>NO.>>MR. SMIGIEL.>>NO.>>MR. THOMAS.>>I’LL SAY MS. WIGGINS YOU WERE
PUT ON THE SPOT TODAY AND YOU DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB. I’M STORY SORRY YOU HAD TO FIND
YOURSELF IN THESE CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT NO.>>I WOULD ECHO THAT. NO.>>IN ALEXANDRIA.>>NO.>>THANK YOU.>>THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.>>R-2.>>A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE THE
ISSUANCE BY THE JOINT INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY OF THE
NORTHAMPTON COUNTY AND TOWNS OF A REVENUE AND REFUNDING BOND IN
AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $10 MILLION FOR THE BENEFIT OF
THE YOUNG MEN’S CHRISTIAN ASSOCIATION OF SOUTH HAMPTON
ROADS AND UPON WHICH THE CITY OF NORFOLK SHALL NOT HAVE ANY
PAYMENT OBLIGATION.>>KEVIN WHITE IS HERE TO SPEAK
IF THERE’S ANY QUESTIONS. NO QUESTIONS, MR. CLERK, PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL.>>ADOPT THE RESOLUTION. MS. GRAVES.>>AYE.>>MS. JOHNSON.>>AYE.>>MS. McCLELLAN.>>AYE.>>MR. RIDDICK.>>AYE.>>MR. SMIGIEL.>>AYE.>>MR. THOMAS.>>AYE.>>DR. WHIBLEY.>>AYE.>>MR. ALEXANDER.>>AYE. R-3.>>AN ORDINANCE APPROVING AN
EXTENSION OF LEASE AGREEMENT WITH LITTLE CREEK NATIONAL PONY
LEAGUE, INC., FOR THE LEASE OF A PORTION OF CITY-OWNED PROPERTY
LOCATED AT 2100 TARRALLTON DRIVE. DISPENSE WITH THE CHARTER
REQUIREMENT FOR READING THE ORDINANCE AND ADOPT. MS. GRAVES.>>AYE.>>MS. JOHNSON.>>AYE.>>MS. McCLELLAN.>>AYE.>>MR. RIDDICK.>>AYE.>>MR. SMIGIEL.>>AYE.>>MR. THOMAS.>>AYE.>>DR. WHIBLEY.>>AYE.>>MR. ALEXANDER.>>AYE.>>THAT’S ALL I HAVE, MR. MAYOR.>>WAS THERE ONE ADDED,
MR. ATTORNEY? DO YOU HAVE ONE OR IS THAT IT?>>NOTIFY ADD-ON.>>ALL RIGHT. SO NOW WE GO TO NEW BUSINESS. MR. BARKMAN, PLEASE COME ON.>>GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR
KENNETH ALEXANDRIA, COUNCIL MEMBERS, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I
REPRESENT THE MIDDLE TOWN ARCH AT BROAD CREEK CIVIC LEAGUE. WITH ALL MEMBERS OF MIDDLE TOWN
ARCH AT BROAD CREEK CIVIC LEAGUE PLEASE STAND. THANK YOU, YOU MAY BE SEATED. IN NOVEMBER 1993, OUR COMMUNITY
WAS FEATURED IN THE SOUTHERN LIVING MAGAZINE OF THE WONDERFUL
EXAMPLE OF URBAN REVENUE IN THE CITY, AND THIS IS THE MAGAZINE
AND A COPY OF THIS IN THE 1993 EDITION, NOVEMBER. MIDDLE TOWN ARCH AT BROAD CREEK
IS AN EXAMPLE OF URBAN REVIVAL IN THE CITY. MIDDLE TOWN ARCH AT BROAD CREEK
IS A LOVELY COMMUNITY IN THE CITY OF NORFOLK THAT IS STRIVING
TO PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF OUR COMMUNITY, MAINTAIN OUR PROPERTY
VALUES, MAKE OUR COMMUNITY SAFE, AND CONTINUE TO BE A COMMUNITY
OF CHOICE. IN THIS ENDEAVOR, WE REQUEST
YOUR ASSISTANCE. RECENTLY, WE HAVE REVIEWED THE
STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC
WORKS DIVISION OF TRANSPORTATION PARKING ON PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY
AND WE BELIEVE SEVERAL CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE ON PARK CRESCENT
THAT ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE PROCEDURES. SIGNS RESTRICTING PARKING
BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 8:00 A.M. AND 5:00 P.M. HAVE BEEN COVERED
OR REMOVED. THESE SIGNS WERE NECESSARY TO
PREVENT PROBLEMS WITH THE DELIVERY OF MAIL, STREET
SWEEPING, TRASH COLLECTION, AND CRIME. WE BELIEVE ANY CHANGES OF THIS
NATURE SHOULD COME TO THE ATTENTION OF THE CIVIC LEAGUE
AND ALL HOUSEHOLDS WITHIN THE AREA AFFECT BY THE SIGN CHANGES. THE MIDDLE TOWN ARCH AT BROAD
CREEK IS AWARE AND IN SUPPORT OF THE PETITION SIGNED BY THE
RESIDENTS IN 2800-2840 BLOCK REQUESTING RESIDENTIAL PARKING
PERMITS. YOUR ATTENTION TO THESE SIGN
CHANGES AND RESIDENTIAL PARKING PERMIT REQUESTS WILL BE
APPRECIATED. I VLS A COPY OF THAT — ALSO
HAVE A COPY OF THAT REQUEST WE PUT IN FOR THE SIGNS, AND WE
ONLY PUT THIS REQUEST IN WHEN SOMEONE HAD MOVED THE SIGNS AND
TAKEN THE SIGNS DOWN AND HAD NOT COMMUNICATED IN ANY FORM OR
FASHION WITH THE RESIDENTS OR THE CITIZENS. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE CITIZENS
IN THAT AREA WHERE THE SIGNS HAD BEEN TAKEN DOWN. THANK YOU.>>THANK YOU. CLAUDE BROWN.>>CAN I SPEAK TO THAT FOR A
SECOND?>>YES, PLEASE.>>THERE SEEMS TO BE ISSUES IN
REGARDS TO THE COMMUNITY GETTING THE “NO PARKING” SIGNS UP AND
BASED ON JOHN STEVENSON AND THELMA DRAKE, IT COULD TAKE AS
MUCH AS TWO YEARS AND TO, YOU KNOW, TO GET THIS ADDRESSED. THE COMMUNITY IS CONCERNED ABOUT
THE INTEGRITY OF THE COMMUNITY, RESALE VALUE, HOME VALUES,
POSSIBILITY OF BECOMING A HAVEN FOR RENTERS WHERE AN INDIVIDUAL
WILL BE ABLE TO COME HOME, KNOW THERE WILL BE A PARKING SPACE
THERE, AND ALL THE ISSUES THAT A COMMUNITY HAS IS WHAT THEY’RE
CONCERNED ABOUT. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I WAS
SUPPOSED TO ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY, CAN WE REQUEST A
PUBLIC HEARING FROM THIS LEVEL TO HAVE THE PARKING REINSTALLED
THERE? AND IF YOU NEED TO GET BACK TO
ME, YOU CAN.>>PARKING THAT’S BEEN TAKING
UP — AS YOU WERE SAYING EARLIER, THAT IS WITHIN THE WILL
OF THE COUNCIL, SO IF THERE’S PARKING THAT — SPACES WHERE
IT’S BEEN PROHIBITED, IT’S ABSOLUTELY WITHIN THIS COUNCIL’S
DISCRETION TO ALLOW PARKING THERE.>>WYNTER WANTS TO ADD
SOMETHING.>>GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, MEMBERS
OF CITY COUNCIL. I’M GOING TO GIVE BRECK
SOMETHING HERE REALLY QUICKLY. SO WHAT YOU’RE GOING TO GET IS
KIND OF BULLETS ON WHAT THE RESIDENTIAL PARKING PERMIT
PROGRAM IS, AND I THINK HE KNOWS WELL, YOU’LL GET A MAP AS WELL
THAT SHOWS WHERE YOU HAVE RPPs IN OUR CITY AND ZONE 8 AT ONE
WE’RE TALKING ABOUT THIS EVENING. MR. RIDDICK WAS KIND ENOUGH TO
GIVE US A HEADS-UP TO MR. STEVENSON AND MS. DRAKE
EARLIER AND THEY GOT ME UP TO SPEED TODAY ACTUALLY. AND SO WHAT YOU’LL FIND FROM THE
PROGRAM ITSELF IS ONE THAT’S BEEN AROUND SINCE 1983 AND
IMPACTS MANY OF YOUR WARDS IN DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS. PRINCIPALLY, WE’RE TALKING ABOUT
MIDDLE TOWN ARCH WHICH ALREADY LASS A RESIDENTIAL PARKING
PERMIT PROGRAM THERE. I THINK I WAS 1995 THAT WAS
INSTITUTED? SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE. SO SINCE 2003, WE HAVE HAVEN’T
HAD AN ADDITIONAL STREET, SO THE SIGNAGE, SOME OF THE HICK COPS
WE SAW WENT WE FIRST PUT IT IN PLACE, WE PUT UP SIGNS THAT I
THINK WERE COVERED. THERE’S TWO VARIABLES YOU HAVE
TO MEET IN THE PROGRAM. ONE OF WHICH, YOU HAVE TO HAVE
75% OF THE COMMUNITY THAT SAID YES, WE WANT A RESIDENTIAL
PERMIT PARKING PROGRAM, WHICH THEY’VE MET. HANDS DOWN. WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN, THE SECOND
BULLET, YOU HAVE TO SHOW THAT AT A CERTAIN POINT, WE COME BACK IN
DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE DAY, THAT 70% — I WANT TO GET THE
LANGUAGE CORRECT HERE. 70% OF THE LEGAL AVAILABLE
ON-STREET PARKING SPACES MUST BE OCCUPIED. AND SO WHEN OUR STAFF WENT BACK
AND LOOKED AT CERTAIN TIMES IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, THEY FOUND
THAT IT DIDN’T MEET THAT THRESHOLD. IT WASN’T 70% OF THOSE SPACES
OCCUPIED. IT WAS MORE LIKE 30%. AND I THINK WHAT MIDDLE TOWN
ARCH WRESTLED WITH THE NOT UNLIKE WHAT WE WRESTLE WITH AT
ODU. YOU HAVE STUDENTS THERE THAT
TAKE UP PARKING THAT TRY TO WALK AND MAKE IT TO CLASS WITHOUT
BUYING A PERMIT AT NORFOLK STATE. IS THAT RIGHT? AND SO FOR US, THE PROGRAM
ITSELF, TWO VARIABLES AGAIN. THE COMMUNITY MET THEIR 75%. WE DIDN’T SEE THE 70% OCCUPIED
WHEN WE WENT OUT AND LOOKED. THE QUESTION THAT MR. RIDDICK
POSED TO MR. PISHKO COULD BE ONE
THAT LOOKING AT THE PROGRAM, IT’S A DUE PROCESS QUESTION. BY THE TWO VARIABLES, ONE, THE
COMMUNITY MET THE 75% AND WE IN LOOKING AT IT AS STAFF LEVEL
DIDN’T SEE THAT 70% OF THE PARKING WAS OCCUPIED WHEN WE
WENT OUT, AND IT COULD BE BECAUSE WE’RE QUICKLY
APPROACHING MOTHER’S DAY, THAT MAYBE MANY OF OUR STUDENTS HAVE
ALREADY GONE HOME OR STARTED TO MATRICULATE DEPENDING. IT’S NOT TO SAY THAT WE DON’T
THINK THAT THERE’S THAT GIRTH OR BURDEN THAT THEY SEE BECAUSE
THEY ALREADY HAVE THE RPP IN PLACE. FOR US, IT’S JUST WHEN WE WENT
BACK AND DID THAT SECOND PART OF THE TEST, IT WASN’T MET. SO FOR US, THE TWO YEARS M RID,
I’M NOT SURE WHERE MS. DRAKE AND
MR. STEVENSON WERE TALKING
ABOUT. THAT’S AN INORDINATE AMOUNT OF
PERIOD OF TIME. THE QUESTION I THINK WOULD BE A
PROCEDURAL ONE. IF NOT HAVING NET THE TWO
LITMUS, CAN YOU THEN FOREGO THE PROCESS AS IT IS AND REQUIRE A
PUBLIC HEARING AS YOU REQUEST. SO THAT’S JUST MY SIMPLE
UNDERSTANDING OF THE SITUATION.>>YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT CONCERNS ME AS WELL AS MOST OF THE RESIDENTS, THEY HAD THIS
BACK IN THE ’90s. YOU THELMA, JOHN MIGHT HAVE BEEN
HERE, YOU KNOW, AT THAT TIME, I DON’T KNOW, BUT NONE OF YOU WERE
HERE AND SO HERE’S A COMMUNITY, HERE’S A COMMUNITY THAT INVESTED
IN NORFOLK. IF YOU LOOK AT THE — I GUESS
YOU SAY THE SCORECARD OF THESE RESIDENTS, THEY COULD LIVE
ANYWHERE. SO NOW THEY’RE TRYING TO PROTECT
THE INTEGRITY OF THEIR COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, THERE ARE TIMES THAT
TRASH COLLECTORS CAN’T CHECK THE TRASH BECAUSE OF PARKING. AND SO I JUST REALLY BELIEVE
THAT WE OWE THIS COMMUNITY A DEBT OF GRATITUDE FOR TAKING A
CHANCE ON NORFOLK. NOBODY TOLD — I MEAN, NOBODY
CAN — NOBODY IN THIS BUILDING CAN SAY WHO DROPPED THE BALL. THEY HAD EVERYTHING THAT THEY
WANTED, YOU KNOW, FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT SOMEHOW SOMEBODY
ARBITRARILY, YOU KNOW, WENT OUT AND DROPPED THE BALL. NOW, THERE’S SOME VERY CLOUDY
HISTORY OF SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THAT I WON’T TALK ABOUT AS FAR
AS PARKING IS CONCERNED THAT I HAPPEN TO KNOW ABOUT BECAUSE A
LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH PARKING DURING NORFOLK STATE FOOTBALL
GAMES OR MIDDLETOWN ARCH TO GO THROUGH THERE. I THINK THAT’S THE MAIN STREET
THAT GOES THROUGH.>>YES.
>>AND SO THERE WAS A FORMER PRESIDENT OF ONE OF THE CIVIC
LEAGUES OUT THERE THAT PUT A LOT OF PRESSURE ON THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT TO DO SOME THINGS. I REALLY BELIEVE THAT THIS
COUNCIL NEEDS TO ALLOW ALL OF THESE GRASS AND WYNTER, WE
REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU AND YOUR EFFORTS, BUT I DON’T THINK
THIS COMMUNITY SHOULD HAVE TO SUFFER THROUGH THAT WHEN THEY
HAD WHAT THEY WANTED.>>I AGREE.>>COULD IT BE THAT WE ADOPT A
DIFFERENT STANDARD FOR NEIGHBORHOOD LOCATED BY
COLLEGES? I MEAN, WOULDN’T IT BE JUST THAT
SIMPLE? MAYBE THE 70% IS TOO HIGH
BECAUSE THE FLUCTUATING STUDENTS WHEN CAMPUS GOES? WOULD IT BE SOMETHING THAT WE
CAN LOOK INTO?>>CERTAINLY.>>MAYOR, I THINK WE’RE ALL LIKE
MIND, TRYING TO GET TO THE SAME PLACE. LET US BRING YOU SOME OPTIONS
ALONG THE LINES WHATEVER MR. SMIGIEL SAID AND COME BACK,
RATHER THAN TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT ON THE FLY.>>I THINK THAT’S THE RIGHT WAY
TO GO, BUT I WANT TO HEAR FROM MRS. GRAVES AND MRS. JOHNSON.>>I THINK WHATEVER OPTION YOU
BRING, WE NEED TO BRING IT TO THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. I DON’T THINK IT SHOULD BE JUST
BROUGHT TO THE COUNCIL AND THEN WE SIT HERE, YOU KNOW, IN ALL
OUR WONDER AND SAY, YOU KNOW, AND SAY WHAT’S GREAT, WHAT’S
BEST FOR A COMMUNITY WHEN WE DON’T PHYSICALLY LIVE THERE. I THINK WHATEVER THE OPTIONS
ARE, WE NEED TO SHARE THOSE OPTIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY, LET
THE COMMUNITY DECIDE WHAT THEY LIKE AND THEN BRING BACK TO DOUG
AND COUNCIL WHAT, OUT OF A, B, OR C, WHAT OPTION THE COMMUNITY
THINK WILL WORK BEST FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY LIVE THERE AND WE
DON’T.>>ALL RIGHT. MRS. JOHNSON.>>GOOD EVENING. I CAN SAY I DO LIVE THERE. I AM BLOCKS AWAY FROM MIDDLETOWN
ARCH AND JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT BACKGROUND AS CIVIC
LEAGUE PRESIDENT OF BROAD CREEK, IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME THAT
MIDDLETOWN ARCH AND STONEBRIDGE, BOTH COMMUNITIES BECAME AT BROAD
CREEK BECAUSE WE SEE OURSELVES AS ONE.>>YES.
>>AND BEING THAT I DO LIVE THERE, I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE
COMMUNITY OF MIDDLETOWN ARCH HAS TO DEAL WITH. BECAUSE MY COMMUNITY IS DEALING
WITH THE SAME THING, MR. BROCKINGTON, SO I CAN SAY
THAT I DO KNOW WHAT’S GOING ON IN YOUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE I AM
ONLY BLOCKS AWAY. AND I WANT TO SAY TALK TO YOU
AND THE COMMUNITY, MIDDLETOWN ARCH AT BROAD CREEK, FOR COMING
OUT TONIGHT AND SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF YOUR COMMUNITY.>>ANYWAY I SAY SOMETHING?>>GO AHEAD.>>LAST —
>>MR. BROCKINGTON, GET TO THE
MICROPHONE SO WE CAN HEAR YOU.>>OKAY. MAY I SAY SOMETHING? THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT
OUR COMMUNITIES WANTS, AS PAUL HAS SPOKEN, PRIOR WE HAD ALREADY
HAD SIGNS, SO WE’RE SAYING IF YOU’RE GOING TO REMOVE OUR
SIGNS, TO WAIT TO DO YOUR ANALYSIS FOR THE NEW PETITION,
THEN LEAVE OUR SIGNS IN PLACE UNTIL YOU DECIDE ON WHAT YOU’RE
GOING TO DO WITH THAT PETITION. BUT WHAT HAS BEEN DONE, THEY
HAVE REMOVE THE SIGNS AND HAVE CREATED A GREATER PROBLEM IN
PARKING, AND THEN IN THE PROCESS OF REMOVING THE SIGNS, NO ONE
NOTIFIED ANYONE IN THE COMMUNITY OR THE CIVIC LEAGUE AND WHEN WE
CALLED TO INVESTIGATE WHAT IS HAPPENING, NO ONE CAN REALLY
GIVE US ANY SENSE OF WHO AUTHORIZED THE REMOVAL OF THE
SIGNS. IT’S A MYSTERY ABOUT THAT. AND SO WE WANT OUR SIGNS BACK
UNTIL THEY DECIDE ON WHATEVER — IF THEY’RE GOING TO GIVE US THE
RESIDENTIAL PARKING.>>THANK YOU, MR. BROCKINGTON. OKAY. ANDRIA.>>I’M SORRY, BUT I ALSO HAVE
SOME CONSTITUENTS WHO ALSO CONTACTED ME ABOUT THE RPP THIS
WEEK AS WELL. SO I ALSO LEARNED ABOUT THIS AND
I’M CURIOUS WHAT YOUR EXPERIENCES, DID YOU PREVIOUSLY
RECEIVE AN AUTOMATIC RENEWAL FOR YOUR PERMITS AND HAS THAT
CHANGED RECENTLY?>>NO, WE HAVEN’T.
>>OKAY. I THINK THERE’S AN OPPORTUNITY
TO LOOK AT THAT AS WELL WHEN YOU’RE st — WHEN WE’RE
ANALYZING THIS.>>THANK YOU, MR. BROCKINGTON. ALL RIGHT, MR. BOB BROWN.>>GOOD EVENING, MAYOR
ALEXANDER, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, MR. PISHKO, MR. DAUGHERTY,
MR. SMITH. MY NAME IS BOB BROWN, I LIVE ON
TROY STREET I’M A FOUNDING MEMBER OF THE CITIZENS RECALL
COMMITTEE AND FOR THE PAST 15 MONTHS, WE’VE BEEN DEDICATED TO
ONE GOAL AND THAT WAS TO REMOVE MR. BURFOOT FROM OFFICE. WE WEREN’T ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY
DO THAT, BUT AS YOU KNOW, ANTHONY BURFOOT HAS NOW BEEN
CONVICTED AND JUDGE MARTIN REMOVED HIM FROM OFFICE. THAT’S OBVIOUSLY GOING TO GO TO
STATE SUPREME COURT, PROBABLY FIVE MONTHS AND IT’S A SLIM
ARGUMENT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, SO IT’S VERY POSSIBLE THAT THAT
REMOVAL COULD BE REVERSED. THAT SAID, I SERIOUSLY DOUBT
MR. BURFOOT WILL EVER RETURN TO
THE TREASURERS OFFICE. HE HAS A HUGE UPHILL BATTLE WITH
HIS LEGAL APPEALS TO STATE AND EVEN IF JUDGE MARTIN’S DECISION
IS REMOVED, AS YOU KNOW, WE CHANGED THE LAW AND MR. BURFOOT
WILL STAY SUSPENDED IF THAT DECISION OF JUDGE MARTIN IS NOT
UPHELD. OUR CONCERN IS ABOUT THE COUNCIL
RECOMMENDATION OF STANLEY SINE. I IN NO WAY EVER FORM WILL EVER
MALIGN THE GOOD NAME OF STANLEY STEIN. HE’S AN EXCELLENCE PUBLIC
SERVANT FOR THE CITY OF NORFOLK, SERVED THE CITY WELL FOR 40
YEARS. HOWEVER, I DO HAVE CONCERNS
ABOUT HIS JUDGMENT DURING THE PILOT DRAMA. HE WORKED WITH MR. BURFOOT TO
SELECT RFPs –>>MR. BROWN, LET ME GIVE YOU
MORE TIME, BUT THE COUNCIL HAS NOT RECOMMENDED ANYBODY.>>OKAY, THAT WAS THE — MAYOR,
I HEAR — MY PHONE RINGS ALL THE TIME AT NIGHT. THIS HAS BEEN A 15-MONTH SAGA
FOR ME. YOU’D BE SURPRISE — YOU
PROBABLY WOULDN’T BE SURPRISED WHAT I HEAR. I HEAR A LOT OF HEARSAY, BUT I
HAVE SOME VERY GOOD SOURCES IN THE CITY, AND LIKE I SAID,
STANLEY AS EXCELLENT PLAN AND I KNOW — STANLEY IS AN EXCELLENT
MAN AND NOTIFY SAY WHATSOEVER. IT’S UP TO, IF YOU READ THE CODE
OF VIRGINIA, I SAYS THE CHIEF DEPUTY SHALL TAKE OVER, BUT THEY
HAVE TO LIVE IN NORFOLK AND SINCE NO ONE CURRENTLY LIVES IN
NORFOLK, IT IS UP TO THE JUDICIAL AND THE JUDICIAL CAN’T
DECIDE, IT’S UP TO THE CHIEF JUSTICE AND IT’S OUT THERE THAT
YOU HAVE ALL RECOMMENDED, I DON’T KNOW IF THAT’S HEARSAY,
BUT THAT WAS THE PERCEPTION WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. AND STANLEY STEIN IS A GOOD MAN,
BUT WE HAVE CONCERNS OF THE FACT THAT HE REPD MR. BURFOOT WITH
THE RFP THAT TIED — THAT WAS AGAINST THE BUILDERS GUILD IN
ORDER TO BE SELECTED AS A BUILDER, YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE
A MEMBER OF THE GUILD AND YOU WEREN’T AND THOSE PROCEDURES
WERE ABROGATED AND THAT WAS OUR CONCERN ABOUT MR. STEIN. NOTHING ABOUT HIS CHARACTER OR
HIS WILLINGNESS TO DO ANYTHING ILLEGAL. HE WAS LED ASTRAY BY MR. BURFOOT
AND MR. BURFOOT IS A VERY
PERSUASIVE INDIVIDUAL, I UNDERSTAND THAT. HE DIDN’T GET WHERE HE DID
WITHOUT THAT. THAT SAID, HE’S IN PRISON NOW
AND WON’T BE RETURNING. JUDGE MARTIN’S DECISION COULD BE
REVERSED. WE ASK IF YOU DO HAVE ANY SWAY,
MAYBE YOU REACH OUT TO RESTORE CONFIDENCE TO THE TREASURER’S
OFFICE, SOMEONE LIKE VIVIAN PAGE OR JIM McDONALD OR EVEN CARL
COX. CARL COX WAS FIRED BY STANLEY
STEIN. THERE’S BEEN A LOT OF POLITICAL
MAYHEM IN THAT OFFICE AND MORE THAN ANYTHING, THE CITIZENS OF
NORFOLK WANT TO HAVE TRUST IN CITY GOVERNMENT AND IT’S OUR
POSITION THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMEONE OUTSIDE THE
TREASURER’S OFFICE. THE OTHER POINT, I EMAILED ALL
OF YOU, THE FACT THAT THERE HASN’T BEEN A TOTAL FINANCIAL
AUDIT OF THE TREASURER’S OFFICE. I DIDN’T, THERE’S BEEN
PROCEDURAL AUDITS AND THERE’S TURNOVER AUDITS SINCE THE
ADMINISTRATION CHANGED. I SAT IN THE FEDERAL TRIAL
ALMOST EVERY DAY WITH FRANK GRAVES, A CITY AUDITOR FOR 25
YEARS, AND HE TOLD ME THERE HAS NOT BEEN A FULL FINANCIAL AUDIT
IN 25 YEARS. IT’S FAR PASTIME FOR A FULL
AUDIT, PARTICULARLY WHAT WE’VE BEEN THROUGH, AND WE WILL
RECOMMEND TO THE COUNCIL THAT YOU FORM AN AUDIT COMMITTEE AND
CERTAIN QUESTIONS BE ASKED. I HAVE PEOPLE COME TO ME SAYING
THAT BURFOOT WOULD CUT DEALS WITH PEOPLE THAT WERE BEHIND ON
THEIR TAXES AND HE WOULD SEND SOMEONE — I WON’T MENTION
NAMES, BUT SOMEONE FROM NORFOLK WOULD BE SENT TO CUT A DEAL. YOU GIVE THUS AMOUNT OF MONEY,
WE’LL WRITE OFF THE TAX. I DON’T KNOW, IT’S HEARSAY, BUT
CERTAINLY NEEDS LOOKING INTO AND I WOULD APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL’S
CONCERN ABOUT THAT.>>THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
MR. BROWN.>>THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.>>MICHAEL J. MOHAMMED.>>I HOPE THAT THREE MINUTE TIME
WORKS FOR ME LIKE IT DOES FOR THEM. YOU ALL GOT EASIER ISSUES WITH
YOUR SELECTIVE –>>STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS,
SIR.>>HOW YOU CHOOSE TO DO BUSINESS
IN YOUR SELECTIVE PROCESS. MICHAEL MOHAMMED, 416 CURRY
COURT, NORFOLK, VIRGINIA.>>WELCOME.>>I’M BEFORE YOU AGAIN TO SPEAK
ABOUT YOUR CITY ATTORNEY. SEVERAL ISSUES HAVE COME UP HERE
TONIGHT WHERE AMBIGUITY AND JUST CONFUSION HAS COME AS A RESULT
OF INTERACTION WITH YOUR ATTORNEY. YOU SAY THE CITY HAS NOT TAKEN A
POSITION, BUT IF YOUR ATTORNEY HAS TAKEN A POSITION, THEN THE
CITY HAS TEN A POSITION. EX PARTE HEARINGS WITH JUDGES,
USING HIS OFFICE TO HAVE WEBSITES TAKEN DOWN, USING HIS
OFFICE TO COVER FOR SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS WHO ARE ALSO
COUNCILMEN, USING HIS OFFICE TO SETTLE SUITS WITH THE OMAR
JOHNSON FAMILY KNOWING FULL WELL THAT HIS DAUGHTER HAD PERSONAL
INVOLVEMENT WITH OMAR JOHNSON. THIS STUFF GOES ON AND ON AND ON
AND NO OTHER EMPLOYEE IN ANY CORPORATE SETTING WOULD BE
ALLOWED BECAUSE OF PERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS, FRIENDSHIPS, AND
RESPECT. I DON’T CARE WHO YOUR FATHER
FLAW IS, WHO YOUR FAMILY IS — FATHER-IN-LAW IS, WHO YOUR
FAMILY IS JUST LIKE THE PRINT BOOKSTORE AND ONE OF THE
BUILDINGS, CONSTANTLY NEGOTIATING CONTRACTS THAT ARE
BENEFICIAL TO HIM PERSONALLY. THIS CONTINUED HANDSHAKE DEALS
WITH BUDDY GADHAM, HAND SHAKE DEALS WITH VINCENT, WHERE DOES
IT END? WHERE DO YOU ALL GET THE
INTESTINAL FORTITUDE TO STAND UP AND SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH? THE EMBARRASSMENT IS ENOUGH AND
WE’RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING? AND EVEN WHEN YOU DO THAT, WHEN
WILL YOU ALL STOP THE SHE CAN TIFR PROCESSING OF HOW —
SELECTIVE PROCESSING OF HOW YOU HANDLE BUSINESS? IT’S VERY RUDE AND DISRESPECTFUL
JUST TO HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS TEXTS AND TWEETING WHILE YOU’RE
TRYING TO TALK. IT’S RUDE AND PEOPLE WOULDN’T DO
THAT TO YOU, BUT THIS COUNCIL, IF IT IS TO BE RESPECTED AND THE
GOVERNMENT THAT MR. BROWN IS TO
BE TALKING ABOUT IS TO BE RESPECTED, THEN THIS COUNCIL HAS
TO TAKE A POSITION AND STAND ON IT, BE MEN AND WOMEN OF
INTEGRITY ANDSTON THE BACKROOM PEDDLING. BERNARD PISHKO IS A PROBLEM FOR
THE CITIZENS OF NORFOLK, FOR THE COUNCIL OF NORFOLK, AND HE WILL
CONTINUE TO DO WHAT HE DOES TO BRING ABOUT HIS OWN PERSONAL
FEELINGS, NO OTHER CITIZEN OR EMPLOYEE CAN WALK AROUND AND
HAVE THE AUTONOMOUS BEHAVIOR THAT THIS MAN HAS. HIS OFFICE IS OVERBEARING ON
SMALL BUSINESSES, ON CITIZENS TAKING PERSONAL SHOTS AND
ATTACKS AT CITIZENS. WHERE DOES IT ALL STOP? AND THE PROBLEM EVEN GOES
FURTHER THAT IF YOU ALL CAN’T HANDLE IT, THEN MAYBE WE NEED TO
START LOOKING AT REMOVING YOU ALL. YOU ALL HAVE TO ADDRESS THESE
ISSUES. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE
DIRECTOR FOR THE FBI’S REGIONAL OFFICE, WROTE A LETTER TO THE
EDITOR THE OTHER DAY BEGGING CITIZENS TO USE A HOTLINE TO
REPORT CRIME AND CORRUPTION BECAUSE THEY CAN’T TRUST YOU ALL
TO DO IT. MR. BURFOOT SHOULD NOT BE A
SCAPEGOAT FOR YEARS AND YEARS OF TARNISH THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT ON
THIS CITY AND EVEN DURING HIS TRIAL, HE TESTIFIED THAT MUCH OF
WHAT HE DOES WAS AT THE ADVICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY, BERNARD
PISHKO. WHERE DOES IT ALL BEGIN AND
WHERE DOES IT ALL END? WHEN WILL YOU ALL TAKE THE REAL
SERIOUS BUSINESS OF THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY BEFORE THE PUBLIC
AND DO WHAT IS NECESSARY AND FUR MORE, I WANT THE EMAILS THAT
HAVE BEEN MISHELD BY MR. PISHKO
UNDER ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE WHEN HE HAD NO CLIENT THAT HE
HAD A PRIVILEGE. THAT IS PERSONAL, IT’S A
CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON THE PART OF MR. PISHKO, IT’S A CONFLICT
OF INTEREST ON THE PART OF MR. SMIGIEL, AND IF YOU ALL SUBORN
IT, IT’S A CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON YOUR PART. SOMETHING HAS TO GIVE.>>THANK YOU, MR. MOHAMMED. DANNY LEE GINN.>>MY NAME IS DANNY LEE GINN. I RESIDE AT 3844 DARE CIRCLE. THIS APPARENTLY IS NOT GOING TO
BE A GOOD NIGHT FOR YOU PEOPLE. I’VE BEEN COMING IN IN HERE AND
I’LL FOLLOW UP MR. MOHAMMED, WE
HAVE A LOT OF DISTRUST FOR YOU PEOPLE. YOU MAY LAUGH, YOU MAY GIGGLE,
YOU MAY SLAP EACH OTHER ON THE BACK, BUT WE ARE GETTING VERY,
VERY FRUSTRATED AS CITIZENS OF THIS CITY. I HAVE ADDRESSED AN ISSUE IN
REGARDS TO YOUR RULES OF CONDUCT AT THIS VERY PODIUM. IT HAD BEEN INITIALLY STARTED IN
APRIL OF 2015. YOU DID A SHUCK AND JIVE,
ESTABLISHED YOUR OWN RULES OF CONDUCT AND I GUESS THOUGHT I
WAS NOT SMART ENOUGH TO READ THE ENTIRE 16 PAGES, WHICH I DID,
AND FOUND OUT THAT WHAT YOU DID TO INSULT ALL OF US, INCLUDING
EVERY CITIZEN OF THE CITY, IS YOU TOOK THE RULES THAT WERE AS
I POINTED OUT, WERE UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND STRIPPED
EVERY CITIZEN OF THEIR FREEDOM OF SPEECH IN THIS PODIUM, WHICH
IN TURN YOU CAN’T ENFORCE LEGALLY IF YOU ATTEMPTED TO
SHOW — SHUT SOMEONE DOWN BECAUSE THEY CRITICIZED YOU OR
YOU DIDN’T WANT TO HEAR THEM OR YOU TALKED ABOUT SOMEBODY THAT
UPSET YOU. THE THIRD THING THAT NEEDS TO BE
ADDRESSED IN REGARDS TO THIS RULE IS THE FACT THAT BASICALLY
WHY WAS IT DONE? WHEN YOU PASS LEGISLATION FOR
THE CITY, IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR THE GOOD OF THE PEOPLE. THE GOOD OF THE MAJORITY. BUT THIS ARTICLE IN SECTION 5,
A, B, C, B, AND E, WAS PASSED FOR ONE AND ONLY ONE PERSON. IT WAS PASSED TO PUT DOWN AN
INDIVIDUAL WHO PLAYED BY YOUR RULES FOR TEN YEARS WHO CAME IN
HERE AND CONDUCTED HIMSELF IN A MANNER THAT YOU INSTRUCTED HIM
TO DO SO, AND YET YOU WANTED TO PUT HIM DOWN. YOU WANTED TO SEND HIM RUNNING
OUT OF HERE WITH HIS TAILS BETWEEN HIS LEGS BUY CREATING
SUCH A — BY CREATING SUCH AN INSULTING DOCUMENT THAT IT WOULD
NOT ONLY STRIP HIM OF HIS RIGHTS TO REPRESENT HIMSELF, BUT STRIP
THE RIGHTS AND FREEDOM OF SPEECH OF EVERY CITIZEN OF THIS CITY. AND IT’S TIME, AS I HEARD YOU IN
THE INFORMAL SESSION, TO BE BOLD. BOLD MEANS TO SAY THIS IS WRONG,
THIS IS A WRONG DOCUMENT, IT WAS DONE FOR THE WRONG REASONS, AND
WE’RE GOING TO GET RID OF IT. WE’RE NOT GOING TO CONDUCT
OURSELVES. IT WAS NOT NECESSARY FOR DECADES
BEFORE APRIL 2015, AND IT IS NOT NECESSARY NOW. WE KNOW HOW TO CONDUCT
OURSELVES. WE KNOW HOW TO WORK WITHIN THE
THREE-MINUTE LIMIT. WE KNOW HOW TO MAKE OUR POINTS,
AND IT’S TIME FOR ALL OF YOU TO BE BOLD AND TO ACT IN THAT
MANNER FOR ALL OF US.>>COUNCIL IS ADJOURNED. CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY
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