(OUTDATED) Can you make good weapons without DLC? [PAYDAY 2]

Is it possible to make good weapons without DLC? For the most part, yes! While your options for weapons that can keep up with DLC variants are rather, limited… …they do exist. In this video I’ll go over a few weapons you can make that won’t cost you a single penny… …at least, in real money. Now keep in mind I will be using a few weapons and mods that are unlocked through achievements and joining the steam group… …but none of them require you to have paid DLC to unlock them. Hope you enjoy! Let’s get started. The UAR. A personal favourite of mine, the UAR is still a competitive rifle with or without DLC. It’s worth mentioning that there are links in the description to the fully modified guns that I’m using… …along with some skills that improve the gun’s performance. Anyways, the UAR performs well under pressure. The damage and fire rate are on par with top tier DLC rifles… …and it sports a reasonably fast reload. Forget about trying to conceal this gun, though. It doesn’t have nearly enough concealment mods to make it work in a dodge build. The biggest failings of this weapon are the lack of mag size upgrades, (regardless of what DLC you have)… …and the piss poor hipfire accuracy. Be sure to aim down sights for any target further away than point blank. Still though, considering what we’re working with here… …if you want a standard, reliable assault rifle, this is an excellent choice. The M308. This weapon performs pretty much the same with or without DLC. It’s a very commonly used weapon, and for good reason… …it is the king of DRM rifles. This rifle doesn’t only pop heads with perfect accuracy and intense damage… …but when swapped to auto fire mode, it becomes a deadly answer to crowds of enemies and Bulldozers alike. It also comes with a reasonable ammo pickup rate, making it easy to keep your reserves topped off. Therefor, this weapon works really well on holdout heists. There’s not really much of a downside to the M308… …with or without DLC. Give it a shot if you haven’t already! Now let’s move on from assault rifles to akimbo weapons. These ones are tricky. There are so many of them, and they’re all free to everyone, and… …for the most part they all perform okay. Their biggest downside is ammo conservation. Their generally poor accuracy and ammo pickup rate, combined with firing twice as many bullets as usual… …makes it very hard to keep these guns loaded. The only set of akimbo weapons that seem to keep this in check are the Bernetti 9 pistols. When used in tandem with akimbo and pistol skills… The ammo pool for these dualies seems to be never-ending. Now, I’ve modded mine for concealment over other stats… …because akimbo weapons, generally speaking, perform best in dodge builds. This is due to their very high base concealment… …and their high fire rate pairing very well with crits. With these weapons you can shred basically everything in your path… …reload pretty quickly, and get back to… …getting downed on the other side of the map because you didn’t keep track of your health. JUST BECAUSE YOU’RE IN A DODGE BUILD DOESN’T MEAN YOU CAN- [BEEEEP] …and get back to clearing rooms at high velocity. If used correctly in a complimentary build… …these little pistols are absurdly powerful. Moving onto primary shotguns, we have the Joceline AND the Mosconi. Now, I’m lumping these two weapons together because they effectively serve the same purpose. The Mosconi has a slightly faster reload and higher stability… …but the Joceline has more total ammo. The Mosconi can be modded for very high concealment, and while the Joceline has concealment mods too, they just aren’t as good. However, it’s really up to you which one of these you use. Anyways, both of these are very high risk, high reward weapons. They both do RIDICULOUS amounts of damage, especially with the OVERKILL skill giving an active 75% damage boost… …but you only get two shots before you have to reload. However, provided those two shots hit something… …that “something” is probably dead. So, if you’re willing to spend half your time reloading… …in exchange for unmatched stopping and killing power… …these weapons will deliver. Moving onto the only free LMG we have the KSP 58. With the addition of bipods… …light machine guns fill a niche of “perpetual area denial” that is only matched by sentry guns. Now, the KSP 58 is a pretty decent weapon on its own… …albeit with severe recoil… …but this weapon really shines when paired with The Silent Killer and The Professional skills. With substantially increased damage, accuracy, and stability… …silencer skills bump the KSP up from… …”pretty good bullet machine” to… …”QUIET DEADLY DANGER BOX!” And yeah, I know silencer skills make most weapons in the game better… …but certain weapons compliment them better than others… …and I think the KSP 58 is one of them. This is a great choice for heists where you need to bunker down for a while like Rats or Watchdogs… …but maybe not the best choice for more mobile heists, like Meltdown or Goat Simulator. So long as you know when are where to use it… …no cop is getting past you- [CLOAKER BUZZ] [CLOAKER: YOU CALL THIS RESISTING ARREST?!] And now the Platypus. This is the only sniper rifle available without DLC… …so it’s not like you have much of a choice if you’re looking for long-ranged shield removal. Thankfully, the Platypus isn’t terrible. There are better snipers available through DLC… …but the Platypus still holds its own very nicely. It comes prepackaged with a long-ranged scope… …but you can use a custom sight on it, or remove the sights all together. The mag size and ammo pool are pretty small… …so you may wanna take your time when shooting to be sure you don’t waste ammo. If you wanna play a point-and-click adventure, and need a long-ranged answer for shields… …well, you don’t really have another option… …but this will do its job. Now let’s move onto secondary weapons. Unfortunately, SMGs are in a bit of a sorry spot without DLC. The vanilla SMGs range from “completely useless” to “serviceable”… …although, the CMP manages to deliver as a fast firing bullet-hose. This is not only a weapon I would suggest using silencer skills for… …but I would recommend AGAINST using it without. Without silencer skills the low damage, low accuracy and high recoil really shows. However, with the right skill set, this gun is excellent… …and it allows some of the best features of this gun to show through… …like the unmatched reload speed and the huge ammo pool. If you’re willing to spend the extra skill points… …this gun is a good choice. If you aren’t willing to spend the skill points… …you’ll likely find yourself using the Heather. And don’t get me wrong… …there’s not very much that’s bad about this gun… …but there’s nothing really special either. Decent ammo pool, decent accuracy, decent damage. It’s… …decent. If you wanna use an SMG, and don’t have silent killer or DLC… …this is probably your best bet. Do be careful though… …while the tactical reload is pretty speedy… …the reload from empty is less than ideal… …especially in the middle of a firefight. Other than that, this gun will probably do you okay. The Deagle. Anyone who has played Counter-Strike knows the legacy of the Deagle. It’s referred to by many as “The Hand Cannon”… …and for good reason. [BAM] There’s a few different ways to get this weapon up to maximum accuracy and damage without DLC… …but I like to use the Long Barrel and the Jungle Ninja Suppresor… …just because of how ridiculous it looks. It’s up to you and your build to decide how to best customize this weapon for your needs… …hell, the base concealment is even high enough to use in dodge or stealth builds. With huge damage, a big mag size, a good ammo pool, and a fast tactical reload… …the only real downsides to this weapon are a below average ammo pickup rate… …and a very slow reload from empty. But the upsides are so impressive… …that the Deagle still stands as one of the best pistols in the game, with or without DLC. The Bronco. The Bronco really shines as a secondary weapon that requires basically no skills to be good. The available weapon mods make the accuracy, stability, damage and even concealment high enough… …to be a monstrous killing machine… …at least, for six people, and then you gotta reload… …which is one of the two majour downsides of this weapon. It’s a six-shooter… …and none of the mag size increasing skills affect this weapon… …so you’ll be reloading a lot. The Gunslinger skill helps speed this up… …but then you’re getting pistol skills, which isn’t really the point of this weapon. The other big flaw is you can’t put gadgets on the Bronco at all… …so, no laser to help you hip-fire. But, if you can look past the small capacity, and lack of a gadget mount… …this revolver is a great sidearm, regardless of your build. The White Streak. Effectively a Baby Deagle, (in more ways than one)… …the White Streak is a middle ground between the huge damage pistols like the Bronco and the Deagle, and… …well, every other pistol. There aren’t very many weapon mods available for this guy… …but that isn’t really a bad thing. It’s pretty much ready to use as soon as you purchase it. The damage might be a bit lower than Papa Juan… …but the faster reload, the bigger ammo pool, the faster rate of fire, and the very high concealment… …make this a great choice for both dodge players and armour players alike. “I WANT THAT THING DEAD.” [BAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAM] That’s, basically The Judge’s motto. You look at something, and, well- [BAM] -Judge it. This shotgun, much like the Bronco… …doesn’t need any skills to be good. Slap some of that free buckshot ammo and the Shark Teeth on this thing and you’ve got yourself the highest damaging shotgun in the game. The only thing holding The Judge back is the small, non-upgradeable chamber size… …and the small ammo pool. But, nonetheless, if you need something dead- [CHAINS: BULLDOZER!] [BAMBAMBAM] -The Judge has got your back. The Locomotive 12G. Now, The Judge has the highest damage of any shotgun in the game, so that seems pretty hard to compete with… …how does the Locomotive fare? [MONTAGE OF LOCOMOTIVE SHOTS TO “RAZORMIND”] It’s pretty good. In all seriousness, not only is the Locomotive the king of shotguns, it’s arguably the best secondary weapon in the game. Even without DLC, the Locomotive performs phenomenally in every stat! The damage is very high, the rate of fire is shockingly high for a pump-action… …the concealment is great, the mag size is pretty decent but it’s backed up by a very fast reload- [BAM BAM BAM] -and it just kicks ass! You can mod it for high accuracy for kills at any range… …or low accuracy for CQC blasts that will often net you multikills. You can conceal it for dodge builds, and then even put it silencer on it to use as a guard cannon in stealth. It’s fast, it’s ammo efficient, and it hits… …well… …like a Locomotive. And that’s it! You CAN still make potent weapons in PAYDAY 2 without DLC. This video was a hell of a lot of fun to make, and I hope you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching, and take it easy!

100 comments on “(OUTDATED) Can you make good weapons without DLC? [PAYDAY 2]”

  1. helix blood says:

    for the shotguns what is a good perk deck?

  2. GorrillaVision says:

    Technician can increase the capacity of the Locomotive

  3. ferna2294 says:

    DLCs are cool and cheap in this game. They don´t make it a pay 2 win, yet they offer nice stuff like new weapons, mods, heists. I bought some Gage DLCs for 0.74 each.

  4. ferna2294 says:

    BTW the machine gun with a bipod against enemy spawns are amazing.

  5. MichaelLeung2011 says:


  6. iqbal Arya says:

    please make info about best weapon with dlc

  7. cupcake1711 santori says:

    did he juan juan deags for life

  8. Toe Nail says:


  9. Mostech.R6 says:

    what is ur hud on this vid pls tell me its too COOL

  10. Mr BenjiBoy says:

    Akimbo deagle at my stealth build is it good?

  11. Канал Гигрика says:

    *thing is ded*

  12. Aaron Simon says:

    make vid about the mods you using. pleasseeee

  13. Invenblocker says:

    I myself am a long standing fan of the good old Reinfeld shotgun. Haven't really checked if any of my mods are dlc only though.

  14. Hilsey 01 says:

    Liked & Subbed, Nice Vid 🙂 Keep up the good work !

  15. SexyWalrus9000 says:

    you sound like mat pat

  16. TheLawliet10 says:

    I agree with you on the SMG's being lack luster without any of the DLC ones, and it really is disappointing that Overkill probably isn't going to make a new, free SMG.

  17. Liam McDonnell says:

    TBH the bronco is one of the worst weapons to bring on OD. I used to use and love the bronco for DW, but the new difficulties pushed it out of use. It kills around 3 people per magazine (or chamber or whatever) if you get constant headshots, but other pistols (like the deagle) take the same amount of hits to kill enemies (Same with the other revolver, the peacemaker, but that's DLC)

  18. SpaceCry says:

    legit i watch this video a lot

  19. Czech Lukas says:

    good weapons without dlc? This video was banned by overkill

  20. Sushobhan Karekar says:

    Before HHM, I had not bought any dlc and so I used the short mosconi and judge in my dodge builds. I want to try those builds again

  21. Cyann3 says:

    Why isn't the AK5 on this list? That gun Kicks so much ass! All mods are in the game by default, It's got Great Stats, Very good ammo pickup Rate, And is Deathwish Viable! It's only real downside is that it has a slow reload.
    The AK Most likely stands for "Ass Kicker" because of how great this gun is

  22. Edgy Faggot says:

    How do you use the bipod on a LMG

  23. Christian Abay-abay says:

    how do i get the same hitmarker in ths video?

  24. SansTheComic says:

    Dude you forgot………Gaster Blasters and Bones.


  25. Something says:

    The judge = The R8 from csgo (Pre-nerf)

  26. Brandon K says:

    I love Digital Rights Management rifles!

  27. klemen cimerman says:

    9:49 rly…. normal cops..

  28. Chitus The Dog says:


  29. KillJoy says:

    as a pd2 player with 600 hours i gotta say i mostly use vanilla guns, the ak rifle the ak 762,are my go too guns for heists,they are great but with a good build they can be devastating,id really just say to get the gun mod dlcs and thats it,the guns arent anything special really

  30. Cyann3 says:

    <not using silencers on a dodge build
    Connor pls

  31. Tex Rex says:

    Lol my m308 is exactly the same before I saw this vid

  32. MisterEarth Z says:

    Only Overkill or DeathWish Not Onedown UAR 1 magazine for kill 1 taser WithOut Skill But Akimbo Deagle is The Best to Play OneDown next i think a Bronco revolver This is Good to play 1D i think this set can kill bulldozer easy ♥♥♥♥♥ (But you need to use many ammo For akimbo because You need to use hitman perkdeck but Rouge is Best Now #And i Want your hud mod Shaw LOL #i forgot judge Shotgun And Deagle

  33. Suomen Jonnet says:

    Ur hud?

  34. kr says:

    what ab golden ak?

  35. Amy Chesney says:

    Connor how do u get akimbo mp5 and ak

  36. CrouchinCorner says:

    Smaller shotgun = higher damage. Seems legit

  37. Cyann3 says:

    The Kobus 90 Is a great choice too.

  38. Jānis Urtāns says:

    Most of those guns aint good for dw and onedown.

  39. Evilite says:

    Just use the M308

  40. Nick Lamgamer says:

    some weapons are now DLC only.

  41. AWProductions says:

    shame cracked versions cant join steam groups and own achievements !!

  42. BeefMudkipz says:

    i use the bronco with the mosconi or joceline as none of them can have silencer so silencer skill are useless giving me extra points to put in something else.

  43. A Majestic Goose says:

    what graphic mod is that?
    and sound mod

  44. Joaquin U says:

    9:20 With shotgun skils the judge reloads insanely fast.

  45. PresidentRandomGamer says:

    thx fam ~ps4 peasant

  46. porkchop bacon says:

    some of the guns you need dlc for Xbox 360 but the dlcs are free

  47. NOOBGUY says:

    well ı played a ton of DOOM (new 2016 one) and super shotgun is my main gun so GİVE ME THAT MOSCOW!!!

  48. Harvey Hänfling says:

    dude goliath shotgun is best 😉

  49. XANMEDINA KHORNE 71 says:

    can you make akimbo weapons witthout dlc. I want to know how

  50. Thaakier Cole says:

    Can someone tell me what HUD mod he uses pls

  51. wannabe lawnmower says:

    can you make an updated version of this video?
    might be some free weapons that are very usable

  52. Rahul Gomes says:

    Connor is so chill =)

  53. Pigeon McCoo says:

    I ever wanted a revolver

  54. The Grim Sneaker says:

    My game crashes everytime I use or preview the Locomotive 12G

  55. BPTRY says:

    Nice joke

  56. Kaito Shion says:

    Nice, I pretty much set up with the Free Build that consists of the M308 Rifle + Bronco .44 Revolver with a few mods but ready to do any heist till Deathwish where I can see that I can no longer go further. Despite the Bronco's ammo efficiency I enjoy using this weapon since I'm the type of heister who shoots and takes covers as much as I can (Ready for a One Down Heist with that technique) to reload or wait for my armor to patch itself and keep shooting. I only play PD2 when its free since I don't have enough money to purchase the game plus a few DLCs.

  57. Bernardo Galván says:

    The title for this video should be "How to make good weapons in console"

  58. glicko says:

    UAR has poor accuracy without skills yeah

    but mine got 100 accuracy and 100 stability thanks to the oppresor, rifleman, and suppresor skills lmao

  59. Kalvi Animations says:

    update pls?

  60. Nicholae Etherblaze says:

    I use the Joceline because it works well as a precious shotgun. Working well with AP slugs and HE rounds.

  61. Lil Upgrade says:

    lmao "DRM"

  62. akSoulz says:

    good youtuber keep up with the vidios

  63. Quack Js. says:

    amazing channel, keep up the good work.

  64. Krebs Fish says:

    new non-DLC loadout

    M308 and 5/7 pistol

  65. Kelvin Lee says:

    The deagle was referred to as the hand cannon? Bullshit. In csgo, we know it as, the "Juan deag".

  66. TrainingBen says:

    Ah the M308 the king of…. Anti-Piracy.

  67. TonyIshCoot says:

    "Is it possible to make good weapons without DLC?"
    Overkill:LOL no!we made it like that, wtf is this idiot talking about?

  68. Akın Akçam says:

    which gadget on UAR at 0:37 ?

  69. Alberto is a duck says:

    never trust a edited comment

  70. Uffle says:

    "don't try to use it in a dodge build" watch me

  71. Doopy says:

    Thx for marking as outdated, left a thumbs up for not wasting my time 😀

  72. Zetsuri says:

    how about 5/7 AP pistol is it good ?

  73. Uchiha Madara says:

    what does outdated mean?

  74. Andrei Ionita says:

    Potent weapons, inpotent player

  75. ZaTTy! says:


  76. supernorm says:

    -m308 is really great for loud. yeah i know its bad for dodge build so usually people use cavity if they have dlc.

    but seriously , m308 have the highest dps and ammo pickup assault rifle. its really great for mayhem+ . idk about one down or crime spree 10 000+

    -how about ak rifle? i know ak car mod pack superior. but it stills need achievement to unlock. money isnt enough, but ak rifle can go well ,in overkill 🙁

    -have anybody tried amr 16 ?

  77. FΛƬΛ Bodhi says:

    Papa jaun, who's jaun, pop a jaun deeg

  78. Katia Farias says:

    Says to get better weapons without dlc shows hotline miami dlc

  79. Bulldozer says:

    "no cop is getting pass you"
    get downed by a cloaker

  80. Aljosa Milosic says:

    Cough dlc unlocker cough

  81. Leel André says:

    Hey, i think there is something a bit strange, there is a lot of outdated vids with actualized vids, so … connor creativity for making vids, its just only do actualized vids of others? After these will become what? "Outdated II" ?

  82. Banana Phone says:

    Why am I even watching this? It's outdated. I need help.

  83. Chinaki games says:

    What about skills that boost your weapons in this vid?

  84. Super Soyuz says:

    Yo is the signature.45 any good cuz I use it a lot and it's like a headshot machine

  85. SuperTartine592 EG6 says:

    We need akimbo double barred shotgun (THATS A LOTTA DAMAGE)

  86. That Fuck Tonnato says:

    But locomotive su
    Oh right thats The Heist

  87. Hexaria Noob says:


  88. Ian's Meme Factory says:

    I really love Digital Rights Management rifles

  89. Danteramirez981 ( Oh Nay Nay ) says:

    Outdated Jebaited

  90. Mihajlo says:

    You gotta redo the video

  91. g chesters says:

    Personally I use akimbo baby deagles and the arbiter as a secondary are concealed enough to max out the sneaky bastard skill and it works on death sentence one down

  92. Box of Rocks says:

    Laughs in ultimate edition

  93. YourAverageAussie - youtube says:

    i guess the Judge could say

    i find the defendant… GUILTY

  94. Anthony Doty says:

    Lol not for Xbox

  95. maximiliano ramirez says:

    7:03 he warned us about fornite

  96. D3adW1re Ldog419 says:

    Drm??? You mean dmr

  97. BeziLover says:

    Akimbo deagle's DESTROYS EVERYONE xD

  98. Mioth says:

    what hud is that? the link doesnt work

  99. Bossmrs Gamer says:

    Im happy xbox gets al9t of free content

  100. Hot Borsch says:

    Ah changed the thumbnail.

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